Wednesday, July 23, 2008
Liberal churches have 'spiritual Alzheimer's', claims Vatican cardinal
Liberal churches that have abandoned traditional teachings on homosexuality are suffering from "spiritual Alzheimer's", a senior figure in the Vatican has warned the Lambeth Conference. Cardinal Ivan Dias also told hundreds of Anglican bishops gathered in Canterbury that churches who take important decisions without the authority of their leaders have "ecclesial Parkinson's". His outspoken comments will add to the pressure on liberal American and Canadian church leaders who have driven the worldwide Communion to the brink of schism by electing an openly gay bishop and by blessing same-sex unions, in defiance of centuries of tradition and guidelines agreed at the last Lambeth Conference.
IMO: Surely he is basically depending on the naivety of most non-Catholics in these matters. As the truth is that the RC church itself contains more blocs and political groups than even the Anglicans have ever had. The RCs tend to hush things up more and have a cleverer format and management structure, which may well be related to the particlar state of the RC religion. I was first warned about this by a RC priest whom I had had reason to consult many years ago about some personal matter, as many people do. And I have to say that perhaps the 'best' branch of the RC church which I have been obliged to deal with is the Indian branch, which, to an outsider, differs enormously - as a church - from say the UK, US or Australian RC church. OM GANESH.
IMO: For this reason I think these Christians who are being lured into Catholicism in the UK because of the crazy gay lobby are almost being conned, though I dare say many of them feel they have good reasons for a change anyway. I suspect if you did a head count at say the Colherne pub, if it still exists, you'd find a higher relative proportion of RCs than Anglicans, none being unduly worried about these matters. But that is conjecture. The gay lobby and many others seem to be trying to make marriage a foolish thing and a game in this country and marriage seems to hold little value at all here. This seems bad, and is almost reminiscent of long disgarded aspects of the Israeli kibbutz system. You could blame New Labor but not to blame the Tories as well is really to behave like ostriches allegedly do and hide your head in the sand. Anyone who has been to Young Cons meetings should know that. (Someone said: Gay Bishops just sound ridiculous ).
Liberal churches that have abandoned traditional teachings on homosexuality are suffering from "spiritual Alzheimer's", a senior figure in the Vatican has warned the Lambeth Conference. Cardinal Ivan Dias also told hundreds of Anglican bishops gathered in Canterbury that churches who take important decisions without the authority of their leaders have "ecclesial Parkinson's". His outspoken comments will add to the pressure on liberal American and Canadian church leaders who have driven the worldwide Communion to the brink of schism by electing an openly gay bishop and by blessing same-sex unions, in defiance of centuries of tradition and guidelines agreed at the last Lambeth Conference.
IMO: Surely he is basically depending on the naivety of most non-Catholics in these matters. As the truth is that the RC church itself contains more blocs and political groups than even the Anglicans have ever had. The RCs tend to hush things up more and have a cleverer format and management structure, which may well be related to the particlar state of the RC religion. I was first warned about this by a RC priest whom I had had reason to consult many years ago about some personal matter, as many people do. And I have to say that perhaps the 'best' branch of the RC church which I have been obliged to deal with is the Indian branch, which, to an outsider, differs enormously - as a church - from say the UK, US or Australian RC church. OM GANESH.
IMO: For this reason I think these Christians who are being lured into Catholicism in the UK because of the crazy gay lobby are almost being conned, though I dare say many of them feel they have good reasons for a change anyway. I suspect if you did a head count at say the Colherne pub, if it still exists, you'd find a higher relative proportion of RCs than Anglicans, none being unduly worried about these matters. But that is conjecture. The gay lobby and many others seem to be trying to make marriage a foolish thing and a game in this country and marriage seems to hold little value at all here. This seems bad, and is almost reminiscent of long disgarded aspects of the Israeli kibbutz system. You could blame New Labor but not to blame the Tories as well is really to behave like ostriches allegedly do and hide your head in the sand. Anyone who has been to Young Cons meetings should know that. (Someone said: Gay Bishops just sound ridiculous ).
# posted by uv : 7:10 AM
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