Saturday, May 26, 2007
Stop and quiz powers considered in UK - perhaps a new manifestation of a UK Fascist Mussolini style state
The UK government is considering giving police officers across the UK "stop and question" powers under new anti-terror laws, says the Home Office. The proposal, allowing police to ask people about their identity and movement, is among measures being considered by Home Secretary John Reid.
Reid has already made a quick exit from his responsibilities towards organising part of the new (split) Home Office by resigning before the new system gives him any political sorrow. (Was the split a good idea ? I do not take the time to venture an opinion but am merely marvelling at Reid's high level of prudence with respect to his own career.)
IMO: Thank goodness Reid has at least not made up his own mind yet.
We hear the usual congrats from Toady's other cronies and regrets from the civil liberties people.
Tony McNulty (often said to be one of the least obnoxious of the 'cronies') told Mr Blair the new "stop and question" measures would be "very useful UK wide".
IMO: Yeah, It will make it really easy for the Police to arrest mental retards etc. and increase their personal conviction rates and so support the current faulty Labor ethos. The legislation also will allow the easy imprisonment without trial of children who throw slices of cucumber, at least if they do not answer police quizzing satisfactorarily. Bin Laden, quake in yer shoes !?
Jane Winter, director of British-Irish Rights Watch, told the Sunday Times the government was using "a sledgehammer to crack a nut".
IMO: And maybe persecute the innocent - parallels with Mussolini are mounting for "New Labor"'s state terror drive.
Director Shami Chakrabarti said: "This looks like political machismo, a legacy moment. Stopping and questioning anyone you like will backfire because people will be being criminalised."
IMO: Yes, another Blair legacy moment, like murder and torture. Still, at least a few more harmless people will be refused visas to USA so may miss further persecution over there.
OTOH a lot more can be said: Writing separately in the Daily Telegraph, Mr Blair said the disappearance of three suspects under control orders was a symptom of a society which put civil liberties before fighting terror.
IMO: He is admitting that his Potemkin like policies are going wrong and trying to introduce more Mussolini like measures of control to put his own mistakes right, and it probably won't work. Why does B.Liar not just quietly go away ? Perhaps he believes it will be "Apres moi, le deluge" - at least as far as even worse legislation by Gordon Brown is concerned.
Anyone who refuses to co-operate could be charged with obstructing the police and fined up to £5,000, according to the Sunday Times. So: More Gordy stealth taxes
Reid has already made a quick exit from his responsibilities towards organising part of the new (split) Home Office by resigning before the new system gives him any political sorrow. (Was the split a good idea ? I do not take the time to venture an opinion but am merely marvelling at Reid's high level of prudence with respect to his own career.)
IMO: Thank goodness Reid has at least not made up his own mind yet.
We hear the usual congrats from Toady's other cronies and regrets from the civil liberties people.
Tony McNulty (often said to be one of the least obnoxious of the 'cronies') told Mr Blair the new "stop and question" measures would be "very useful UK wide".
IMO: Yeah, It will make it really easy for the Police to arrest mental retards etc. and increase their personal conviction rates and so support the current faulty Labor ethos. The legislation also will allow the easy imprisonment without trial of children who throw slices of cucumber, at least if they do not answer police quizzing satisfactorarily. Bin Laden, quake in yer shoes !?
Jane Winter, director of British-Irish Rights Watch, told the Sunday Times the government was using "a sledgehammer to crack a nut".
IMO: And maybe persecute the innocent - parallels with Mussolini are mounting for "New Labor"'s state terror drive.
Director Shami Chakrabarti said: "This looks like political machismo, a legacy moment. Stopping and questioning anyone you like will backfire because people will be being criminalised."
IMO: Yes, another Blair legacy moment, like murder and torture. Still, at least a few more harmless people will be refused visas to USA so may miss further persecution over there.
OTOH a lot more can be said: Writing separately in the Daily Telegraph, Mr Blair said the disappearance of three suspects under control orders was a symptom of a society which put civil liberties before fighting terror.
IMO: He is admitting that his Potemkin like policies are going wrong and trying to introduce more Mussolini like measures of control to put his own mistakes right, and it probably won't work. Why does B.Liar not just quietly go away ? Perhaps he believes it will be "Apres moi, le deluge" - at least as far as even worse legislation by Gordon Brown is concerned.
Anyone who refuses to co-operate could be charged with obstructing the police and fined up to £5,000, according to the Sunday Times. So: More Gordy stealth taxes
# posted by uv : 10:26 PM
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